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Registration date: 2008-01-31

PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:08 pm

skeptic wrote:
Protecting Jeff's Right To Keep And Bear Chicken Shit And Toxic Computer Waste!
Yeah, THAT'S the ticket.


Why not, you have the right to shit out of your mouth on a regular basis. hammered


Of course! To converse with you, I had to become fluent in your native language! lol!
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PostSubject: Can you say Counterintuitive?   Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:49 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:05 am

Harris won on a technicality. Despite the written laws and the intent of the
legislature to prevent petition tampering including the exclusionary rules
followed by Helen Lehr, the city was ordered to remove ONLY the lines Harris
altered because the affidavit on those petitions was found to be phrased
incorrectly. The wording used on the affidavit was not able to support the law
the legislature passed. Ironically, it was the sample affidavit the legislature
itself provided that was at fault (the sample affidavit was not written by the city
clerk or the city attorney).

The truth is Harris was cited by the court as having altered
those lines and knowingly changing addresses he knew were wrong which is why in
its conclusion the court wrote:

“But this argument was based on the
incorrect assumption that Harris’s affidavit contained the language required by
§19-112C. Had Harris’s affidavit complied with subsection C his alterations as
found by the trial court would have rendered false every affidavit attached to a
signature page containing an alteration, invalidating those signatures. Because
those affidavits did not so comply however Harris’s alterations of the signers’
information outside their presence, although a violation of §19-112A, do not render
the affidavits false, or do not invalidate the unaltered signatures on the
attached signature pages.”
Harris v. City of Bisbee,
et al. 2 CA-CV 2007-0160; page 17, line
24.

Nobody targeted Mr. Harris, no one tried to entrap him and no vendetta was at work. Helen Lehr and the city only attempted to follow the direction of the legislature.
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:29 pm

Upson is right in one context, who authored the affidavit doesn't matter. There is no indication that either side set out to capitalize on anyone's errors. I don't know where he gets that. The issue of the affidavit was only mentioned to respond to those who incorrectly blamed MacKinnon or the city for it. ARS and the law prior to this case required THAT affidavit to be used.

The simple fact is Harris did something questionable by anyone's standards. The only logical reason was to ensure that his petitions had the necessary number of valid signatures to take it to the voters; but don't dissemble the facts, he didn't do it for the people (the people would also prefer not to have their petitions tampered with), he did it for himself and his chickens.
A true hero of the people, right up there with Tyson Foods.
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:31 pm

Posting personal e-mail is a violation of TOS. Please refrain from that unless permission of the sender has been obtained and noted on the post.
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:58 pm

That was an interesting e-mail!!!
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PostSubject: conditional affirmation?   Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:02 pm

Can someone please explain "conditional affirmation" in nice simple terms?
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:02 pm

I had to read it several times. Was that real? Was he actually that paranoid as to think the city was going to arrest him and did anyone else read that as conspiring to commit perjury?
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:05 pm

Conditional affirmation means how can I commit perjury and get away with it.
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:10 pm

That E-mail was an eye-opener.
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PostSubject: Perjury?   Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:15 pm

Anyone else notice a pattern of very strange behaviour here? conspiracy theory
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:19 pm

Strange behavior indeed!
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:21 pm

Wonder where that e-mail came from?
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PostSubject: Somebody fill me in   Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:22 pm

Ok, I missed it. What went down?
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:24 pm

One of the more informative nights here in the B. Wonder if someone is Ranting ?
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