The Avenger's Corner

The Bisbee Avenger · Subject: The Avenger's Corner Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:06 am

Here's a little niche I've carved out for my random observations from time to time on the issues of the day!

Recently, I started a thread on Topix, "Posting On Politics Under The B" that seems to be starting quite a stir.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/bisbee-az/TBE68JJKE70RN8Q3F#lastPost

In it I stated, "My friends, including Marla,(AND a person very close to Jeff Harris,) have suggested that I stop posting here, and begin posting more often over at Politics Under The B." I added that some of the more savage among the Toxic.com posters won't be able to stay away from here 'cuz they gotta peek!

Already they're GOADING me with taunts you don't often hear beyond a 3rd grade classroom, 'cuz they're obviously wanting me back! They want me continuing to post!

Are they *ahem* "obsessed" with me? hammered

Jack · Subject: Re: The Avenger's Corner Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:51 am

Eric, I don't give a rodent's posterior where you post, here -- there -- or anywhere you can find. I'll read your posts wherever they show up, just because occasionally you make a lot of sense (we all fall into that 'occasionally' trap).

I do have the sneaking hunch that some of what you were suddenly being faced with on Topix cut a bit close to the bone. At least one poster over there seems to have a good bit of knowledge and the wit to use it to great effect -- and that you now feel you might be safer here among your cheering section. Only you know about that for sure.

You might want to consider two things:
1) these trolls here seem to have few original viewpoints without being carefully coached and led. . . but then, that role might be one with which you're comfortable.
2) with this action, you largely leave the arena to those who WILL capitalize on your defection from the field. . . and it's real easy to shoot someone in the butt when he's running away.

It's also a bit disheartening to see you succumb to the megalomania shown by your dual actions of creating a thread on Topix to announce that you were decamping --- and then coming over here and "carving out your own corner" to announce that you were the object of others' obsessions. But, again, that's your choice and your action.

Good luck on this decision.

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Jack you have the intellect of a flea. Please feel free to post where you want as long as where you post isn't here.

sandman · Subject: Re: The Avenger's Corner Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:50 am

Hell Cannon, those words are a ringing recommendation for the B.

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Jack · Subject: Safety first -- at all costs! Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:15 am

sandman wrote:

Hell Cannon, those words are a ringing recommendation for the B.

You and your compadres obviously feel so. On the other hand, not everyone agrees with you in the real world. Ah, well. . . so long as your tiny little comfort level isn't threatened or affected, what should you care about the real world?

sandman · Subject: Re: The Avenger's Corner Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:34 pm

Jack wrote:

sandman wrote:

Hell Cannon, those words are a ringing recommendation for the B.

You and your compadres obviously feel so. On the other hand, not everyone agrees with you in the real world. Ah, well. . . so long as your tiny little comfort level isn't threatened or affected, what should you care about the real world?

Jack, you think you speak for the real world? Which one? Where the wife tells you Harris is a mudslinger or the one where you ignore what she thinks?

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Jack · Subject: Safety first -- at all costs! Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:55 pm

sandman wrote:

Jack, you think you speak for the real world? Which one? Where the wife tells you Harris is a mudslinger or the one where you ignore what she thinks?

In the real world I inhabit, one of the first things one learns is that one DOES NOT IGNORE what one's wife thinks! But also in the real world, one does not have to agree with what one is told. For instance, it is common currency here (minted largely by Eric) that Jeff is behind every unattributed post everywhere; you've all been told that, and you all believe it. And yet, my request for proof of this assertion has gone unanswered and unaddressed in any real sense.

In the real world I inhabit, one is expected to back up one's assertions of 'truth' with factual reality. Your world apparently differs slightly.

The Bisbee Avenger · Subject: Re: The Avenger's Corner Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:17 pm

Jack wrote:

... I do have the sneaking hunch that some of what you were suddenly being faced with on Topix cut a bit close to the bone...

Well, Jack, if by "close to the bone" you mean "close to the truth," I have to say you are waaaaaay off the mark.

These "look at all these jobs Eric' has been fired from" and "Eric has NO friends" things are good examples. Neither statement is true, and I could easily cough up a BIG list of references who could refute them... but do YOU have ANY DOUBT whatsever what these dirtbags would attempt to do, to the reputations and characters of any names they got hold of? Very few would want to go though that, and I don't want to expose them to the possibility.

I'm involved in many things, in many places, with many good people all across the state, and I think I've done a rather good job of keeping them safely out of harm's way.

sandman · Subject: Re: The Avenger's Corner Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:17 pm

Yawn!

If you internal antennae is so scrambled or you judgement so poor you can't even trust the little woman then you're one of those who are incapable of learning from others, so learn the hard way.

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The Bisbee Avenger · Subject: Re: The Avenger's Corner Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:22 pm

Jack wrote:

...it is common currency here that Jeff is behind every unattributed post everywhere; you've all been told that, and you all believe it...

That's not true, either.

Of course he's not behind every unattributed post! But we DO know that he IS behind a great majority of them - the problem is, obviously, because they are unattributed, no one but Jeff can be entirely sure which ones ARE his. (Except for, maybe, those people contacts and braggs to about his most recent brilliant post!)

Jack · Subject: Safety first -- at all costs! Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:46 pm

sandman wrote:

Yawn!
If you internal antennae is so scrambled or you judgement so poor you can't even trust the little woman then you're one of those who are incapable of learning from others, so learn the hard way.

You are absolutely determined to misunderstand and misinterpret what you read, aren't you?
Of course I trust my wife; I just don't always agree with her -- or with anyone. That's part of what being your own person is all about.
About being "incapable of learning from others": simple silliness on your part, coupled with the devout wish to be a smart-ass. Hell, we ALL learn from others; you might want to try it sometime.
About "learn the hard way": sometimes. Again, we all do -- but I'll make an exception in your case. You've apparently learned the simple way, and it's made you simple.

So, in future you might try actually responding to a post with which you disagree, instead of trying to be cute and vicious at the same time. . . because you don't carry either of them off very well. In other words: Learn to dispute and debate; learn to defend; learn to attack with some degree of validity.
Or you'll end up simply appearing simple.

The Bisbee Avenger · Subject: Re: The Avenger's Corner Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:53 pm

Jack wrote:

...At least one poster over there seems to have a good bit of knowledge and the wit to use it to great effect...

BTW, some of us have the sense that that person I assume you are talking about - "Henry David" via Anonymous Proxy - is none other than the gracious and lovely Marilyn Jones.

There are tell-tale signs to the writing style and the content. She has a motive and a means. Any "knowledge" she has is rehashed trash she cooked up quite a while back.

The Bisbee Avenger · Subject: Re: The Avenger's Corner Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:57 pm

[quote="Jack"]

sandman wrote:

...instead of trying to be cute and vicious at the same time...

Well, frankly Jack, YOU don't do it very well either.

You are at the height of your skills and persuasive powers when you drop the "vicious" and "cute" stuff, and go for "well-thought-out" and "to-the-point."

THAT'S what's earned you grudging respect from folks like me, NOT the other crap.

sandman · Subject: Re: The Avenger's Corner Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:00 pm

I've watched your crap, Jack. You are either incapable of real logic or playing dumb otherwise you wouldn't need to ask such damn stupid questions.

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Jack · Subject: Oh, really? Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:04 pm

The Bisbee Avenger wrote:

Jack wrote:

...it is common currency here that Jeff is behind every unattributed post everywhere; you've all been told that, and you all believe it...

That's not true, either.

Of course he's not behind every unattributed post! But we DO know that he IS behind a great majority of them - the problem is, obviously, because they are unattributed, no one but Jeff can be entirely sure which ones ARE his. (Except for, maybe, those people contacts and braggs to about his most recent brilliant post!)

And we "know" this exactly HOW? If they are unattributed, is in not in fact only your feelings and suspicions that they're his? As I've said before, where is the PROOF for your paranoia? Certainly, Eric, you're willing to acknowledge the fact that he may not be your only enemy -- that others may well be voicing their own grievances, and be made even more aggrieved by the fact that you and your little cadre refuse to grant them standing, so that you can accuse Jeff?
I admit to being conflicted here: You and Elysian have both gone to great lengths to try to convince me of Jeff's perfidy, citing what you consider historical chapter (but without verse). On the other hand, Jeff has disavowed (to me by e-mail, and publicly on Topix) accusations of numerous posts under multiple identities. These positions make it unlikely that the truth lies somewhere between, and argue for the conclusion that one of you is mis-stating reality. I don't know the answer to this dilemma, but I DO KNOW that your ongoing, eternal, and tiresome fixation on an all-purpose "evil Jeff" is doing you no good.
Which brings me to your much-expressed purported concern about Jeff as an evil elected official: GET REAL!! We all know he hasn't a chance, and that makes your 'concern' about as transparent as a well-washed window. Instead, your repeated doom-mongering only serves to point out -- yet again -- the depths of your own obsession.
And so, I'll beg you again: get over it. Move on, to other concerns and other uses for the good mind you have.