Beware of Jeff Harris.

Harris has flipped out.

I suspect it wouldn't take much for him to go postal.

septic wrote:

Harris is becoming desperate and it shows. Publishing the court filings connected to a private person for no reason other than to attack them isn't morally any different than thinking altering addresses on a petition isn't wrong. Evidently when Harris becomes angry or emotionally unbalanced he loses his ability to behave in an ethical fashion. Imagine him criticizing anyone? Now that takes nerve.

This is going to shake some of you up, but I'm on Eric's side in this; I've offered him any help I can give. What the Tucson Troll has done over on Topix is truly beneath contempt. It does no good for all of you to bewail his actions here -- you need to be over on Topix, lending your voices in support.

We left that forum precisely because Jeff Harris trashed it and every other one he went to. He rarely comes over here and most people like it that way.

Jean wrote:

We left that forum precisely because Jeff Harris trashed it and every other one he went to. He rarely comes over here and most people like it that way.

And so you are all content to leave it at that, after having spent much of the past three months cheerleading here for Eric, and berating Jeff from a safe distance?

Speaks volumes about your courage and your regard for your fellows, doesn't it?

Have a nice time; pleasant dreams in your cocoons.

Jeff is a public figure, if not by virtue of his position on planning
and zoning then because he has repeatedly sought publicity on political
issues. He has taken out petitions. He sought publicity against zoning
changes. He has inserted himself into the street repair issue and
personally sought support from a foreign nation. He wants controversy
and the reasons for it are no more compelling than are the excuses he
uses for attacking Eric. It isn't just Jeff who thinks this way. There
is no deep desire to improve things, tackle real problems, or improve
the lives of Bisbee residents. The only motivation is vendetta,
criticism and revenge. They attempt to destroy people simply because
they don't agree with them. It isn't just Eric, it's McKinnon, Helen,
Ron Oertle, Jack Porter, Steve Pauken. Those who can not see the
common goal that binds this group need to ask themselves how many
people they consider friends who do not share their values? Don't we
all tend to associate with those who think as we do and value what we
value? One of Betty's oldest friends has been Jeff Harris. If you
find the motivation behind the posts on Topix repulsive, think about
having that group in a position of power.

It's called registration Harris and if you were registered someplace it would clearly define you as "YOU", of course we all know that "YOU" would not be content to be "YOU" under all circumstances even if "YOU" were registered.

Notice that he chooses forums where no dissent will be allowed.

Both of you are wrong. This has nothing to do with the flap on Topix except that it provided a vehicle to post the claim that the posts bashing Betty weren't his, they were someone else's. I really doubt that Betty is that gullible. NOT anymore!

Deceit wrote:

Both of you are wrong. This has nothing to do with the flap on Topix except that it provided a vehicle to post the claim that the posts bashing Betty weren't his, they were someone else's. I really doubt that Betty is that gullible. NOT anymore!

I think your observation is interesting, one that I hadn't considered, and quite probably correct.

Now Harris thinks the city attorney is obsessed with him. Is he so out of touch with reality that he doesn't notice people avoiding eye contact with him or intentionally skittling away from him if they see him in public? Can he be that blind to other people's body language?

Given the number of times the word obsession is used, it would certainly appear the only one with a true obsession is the one constantly claiming such behavior in others.

sandman wrote:

Jeff is a public figure, if not by virtue of his position on planning
and zoning then because he has repeatedly sought publicity on political
issues. He has taken out petitions. He sought publicity against zoning
changes. He has inserted himself into the street repair issue and
personally sought support from a foreign nation. He wants controversy
and the reasons for it are no more compelling than are the excuses he
uses for attacking Eric. It isn't just Jeff who thinks this way. There
is no deep desire to improve things, tackle real problems, or improve
the lives of Bisbee residents. The only motivation is vendetta,
criticism and revenge. They attempt to destroy people simply because
they don't agree with them. It isn't just Eric, it's McKinnon, Helen,
Ron Oertle, Jack Porter, Steve Pauken. Those who can not see the
common goal that binds this group need to ask themselves how many
people they consider friends who do not share their values? Don't we
all tend to associate with those who think as we do and value what we
value? One of Betty's oldest friends has been Jeff Harris. If you
find the motivation behind the posts on Topix repulsive, think about
having that group in a position of power.

Don't think BL will ever be able to free herself from JH. He brags how Betty owes him 'big time' and how he saved her ass many times. Claims she was so stupid she didn't remember she lost 200,000 dollars day trading. Virginia has that vendetta against Helen. Hates DM and makes no bones of it. Every person he interacts with serves a purpose or fills a need. Don't forget when he is ripping others to you, he is doing the same to you.

Good to notice that BoOM BOom Cannon does know how to be critical of posts HE thinks are horrid. Ever notice how he is a lot more diplomatic when it comes to what Harris does. I think there is a new CS in town.

Wizer wrote:

Good to notice that BoOM BOom Cannon does know how to be critical of posts HE thinks are horrid. Ever notice how he is a lot more diplomatic when it comes to what Harris does. I think there is a new CS in town.

I've been more than supportive of Eric for weeks. Today, he stepped over the decency line, and I made the post you apparently refer to. I have NOT been knowingly diplomatic on Jeff's behalf, since I consider him a poseur and a gadfly in the service of lost causes; I HAVE on occasion defended both him and Eric when they were being (what I felt to be) unfairly attacked. So, if that makes me 'CS' (whatever that is), so be it.

Meanwhile, this challenge: I defy any of you to point with absolute assurance to a post of Jeff's == either here or on Topix == which is unequivocally his, and that is not so identified. I don't want to hear your paranoid suspicions; we've seen enough of those already. PROVE IT!!

Show us a post of Jeff's which has attacked Eric -- or anyone -- in the same slimy ways that Eric has slandered Jeff, DM, and/or me in the past.

And don't discount this challenge because I am "Jeff's friend". I'm not! But I am thoroughly sick of the paranoia which is on such rampant display here, without a shred of proof. Again:

PROVE IT!

Jack wrote:

Wizer wrote:

Good to notice that BoOM BOom Cannon does know how to be critical of posts HE thinks are horrid. Ever notice how he is a lot more diplomatic when it comes to what Harris does. I think there is a new CS in town.

I've been more than supportive of Eric for weeks. Today, he stepped over the decency line, and I made the post you apparently refer to. I have NOT been knowingly diplomatic on Jeff's behalf, since I consider him a poseur and a gadfly in the service of lost causes; I HAVE on occasion defended both him and Eric when they were being (what I felt to be) unfairly attacked. So, if that makes me 'CS' (whatever that is), so be it.

Meanwhile, this challenge: I defy any of you to point with absolute assurance to a post of Jeff's == either here or on Topix == which is unequivocally his, and that is not so identified. I don't want to hear your paranoid suspicions; we've seen enough of those already. PROVE IT!!

Show us a post of Jeff's which has attacked Eric -- or anyone -- in the same slimy ways that Eric has slandered Jeff, DM, and/or me in the past.

And don't discount this challenge because I am "Jeff's friend". I'm not! But I am thoroughly sick of the paranoia which is on such rampant display here, without a shred of proof. Again:

PROVE IT!

If you can't see what is going on after the last three weeks, there is NO HOPE for you.

BoOm BOoM, it is hopeless. It could be laid in front of you and you would look at the tray it was served on.

Looks like the one eyed jack has flip flopped again. I guess that mean it's Harris's turn next....or maybe DM?

I have to admit, it lasted longer than I thought it would

Yet more paranoia, and more assumptions of 'truthiness' from you folks who are so certain of something for which there is absolutely NO proof. . . and you're busily proving that.

Your pseudo-superiority is showing, and in the face of a requirement for facts your comments speak volumes to anyone concerned with reality. Just to make it simple for you: reality is not necessarily what you'd like it to be. I'm beginning to believe that some of you would not recognize reality if it walked up and peed in your pocket.

And just so it can be clear: This episode does NOT signal a pattern of continuing attack on your erstwhile hero, Eric.

It does signal a renewal of the comments I made here about three weeks ago, regarding the general lack of courage, thought, and rationality of those on this forum I used to have bookmarked as "Fahter's Folly" --- but then, he seldom comes here any more, since all you courageous souls failed to support him when he could have used the support from his "cheering section."

Wimps, losers, anonymous trolls -- all of you. I do hope you're all real proud....