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PostSubject: Harris wins   Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:57 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:32 pm

Wow. I wouldn't want to win if it takes being called a liar to do it.
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:42 pm

This is the Almond Joy decision.
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:44 pm

I get it. Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:01 pm

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Wow. I wouldn't want to win if it takes being called a liar to do it.

I don't think that Jeff has any inhibitions about winning at ANY cost.
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:02 pm

the title of this thread should be
MacKinnon Loses...Again
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:20 pm

GUEST wrote:
the title of this thread should be
MacKinnon Loses...Again

If I were Jeff (and thank God I'm NOT), I wouldn't be too proud of this win.

Read the entire ruling.
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:27 am

A win? That decision reads like the court had to hold their nose to rule against the city. Didn't paint a particularly flattering picture of Harris did it?
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:07 am

Harris didn't win because he was in the right. He only got to keep some of the pages because of a technicality. Can't some of the dumb supporters of that toad read? That was the most stunning indictment of HIS corruption possible without rendering a criminal sentence.
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:13 am

How do those sour grapes taste?
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:16 am

When someone gets described the way Harris was that is the best tasting grapes I've found.
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:33 am

When someone gets described the way Harris was that is the best tasting grapes I've found.
The result is a GOOD thing for the people of Bisbee. We get to vote on theses issues. The fact is 198 valid signatures remain on RF-06-01, and 195 valid signatures remain on RF-06-02 -- more than the 169 required on each petition.
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:48 am

Would it not have been much much simpler if the city
had NOT appealed Hoggatt's decision in the first place?

That way the referendum could have piggybacked
on the ballot last March with the Charter Amendments,
making that election a lot more cost efficient.

There was time and opportunity to put both things on the ballot and the turnout might have been better instead of the record low.

Plus, it would have freed up MacKinnon to tilt at other windmills like the appeal
of the trial court decision on the Border Cities affair.

As it is, the Recorder's office still has to do its check on the signatures.
I understand they were bent out of shape when MacKinnon
held back the paperwork on the first go-round.
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:15 pm

The city has one more try in this: Arizona Supreme Court. MacKinnon told the Review that a decision to appeal to that level was up to the council.
So? What's the bet? To the Supreme or to the Electorate?
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:07 pm

Loved Shar's article in the paper.
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:01 pm

Supreme Court or the voters. Plenty of time. It can do both. The Court first then voting? Why not? No rush is there?
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:00 pm

Read the complaints mouthed by the hysterical and then think about the facts.

Complaint: This is an expensive cost to the city.

Fact: Assuming the council even chooses to take it to the supreme court, the city attorney is on salary. The biggest expense of any lawsuit is in legal fees. There are no legal fees for the city. Filing costs and other incidentals are a comparatively small expense. Chicken feed, so to speak.

Complaint: The voters should decide.


Fact: Decide when? You can always have an election on this issue but you don't have the luxury of waiting to appeal a case or to take one to the supreme court. If you miss your chance you don't get a do over if you have second thoughts.

Complaint: This is a vendetta by the city attorney.

Fact: The decision to appeal or go to the supreme court is the councils' not the attorneys'. He works for them.

Complaint: The city never learns its lesson.

Fact: A lesson? Is that what the hysterical think? Had people simply given up on what is right we would still have Separate but Equal and that brilliant legal decision was made by none other than the Supreme Court of the United States.
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:17 am

Ordinances aside, this legal victory may spell election victory for Jeff. Especially if MacKinnon takes it to the Supreme Court.

When Jeff filed to run against Luche in ward two everyone thought it was a joke. But the visibility and publicity could pull in the votes for Jeff.

After all, who remembers why he ran in the first place? What voters will see is someone who fights hard for them, all the way to the Supreme Court (!!!), and the timing could not be better for Jeff.

If he can keep from meeting voters in person -- he's a shoe in!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:56 pm

You are joking? You gotta be joking? You're not joking.

Whew!
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PostSubject: Chicken Feed?   Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:44 am

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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:53 pm

What happened at the meeting tonight?
Ron sounded like he was all alone in wanting the Supreme Court review but MacKinnon said nothing. What gives?
It looked like the whole thing had been discussed somewhere else and this was just for show.
Haven't seen a mayor make such a strong impassioned plea since Dan against beer on Vista. In that case when the vote came Dan swung to the opposition for a unanimous vote.
At least Ron's vote lined up with his argument.
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:28 pm

Ron came off like an out of control child. Good riddance Ron.
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:37 pm

Look for the zoning laws to be passed by a majority. The court may have cut Harris a break on a technicality but the voters won't.
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:06 pm

Do you really think the voters will accept the zoning changes? I question that. I think they are more interested in maintaining freedom than accepting the conformity of others.
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PostSubject: Re: Harris wins   Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:54 pm

Freedom wrote:
Do you really think the voters will accept the zoning changes? I question that. I think they are more interested in maintaining freedom than accepting the conformity of others.
Protecting Jeff's Right To Keep And Bear Chicken Shit And Toxic Computer Waste!
Yeah, THAT'S the ticket.
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