Bisbee Fire

Eye Mee wrote:

The city council passed the Cleanup Ordinances (2) in October 2006.
That's 2006.

If the city council had not caved in to MacKinnon's vendetta, the referendum
could have been on the March ballot with the charter amendments and the
cleanup ordinances would now be LAW.

If the ordinances are so important then why does the city keep them in Limbo?

You can't give Jeff Harris ALL the credit.

Credit? Whose giving him credit? The city can't do anything since the case is under appeal. Everything has to stop. However, when it does get on the ballot, look for the toxic twerp to have his butt returned on a plate by the voters.

You are right Sammy. The thing is on hold because of the appeal.
However.
It was the City Council that told MacKinnon to appeal the court's ruling.
The Council could have accepted Hoggatt's ruling and sent the petitions to the
County where they would have been accepted (MacKinnon believes this) and made available
for a ballot. There was no need for an expensive Jeff Harris election. The referendum and the charter
amendments could have been on the same ballot. In fact if the referendum had been on the ballot
there might have been a better turnout instead of the RECORD LOW VOTER TURNOUT.
When the city appealed Hoggatt's ruling they put the thing in Limbo.
Right-o. The laws cant become laws until a decision is made and the city goes along with it.
MacKinnon has said he believes the petitions will be accepted. He and others have said
they believe the voters will approve the Ordinances. But, we won't know until they stop fighting.
Jeff Harris may have started this but MacKinnon and the City Council are keeping it going.

How's your yard? Clean and tidy?

To the Bisbee Avenger........
Thank you for not giving my post no credibility and no more of your time. Please please stick to your promise.

Ok, maybe I'll give you just a few more precious moments of my valuable time to observe that you cannot describe any so-called vendetta on the part of the city attorney, nor can you back it up with any evidence.

We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.

Eye Mee wrote:

To the Bisbee Avenger........
Thank you for not giving my post no credibility and no more of your time. Please please stick to your promise.

TBE said
.....I shall give you post no more of my time.

TBE meant
.....I shall given unlimited posting time to anyone who gives me the time of day because I just love the inane banter it generates.

[hr]You are right Sammy. The thing is on hold because of the appeal.
However.
It was the City Council that told MacKinnon to appeal the court's ruling.
The Council could have accepted Hoggatt's ruling and sent the petitions to the
County where they would have been accepted (MacKinnon believes this) and made available
for a ballot. There was no need for an expensive Jeff Harris election. The referendum and the charter
amendments could have been on the same ballot. In fact if the referendum had been on the ballot
there might have been a better turnout instead of the RECORD LOW VOTER TURNOUT.
When the city appealed Hoggatt's ruling they put the thing in Limbo.
Right-o. The laws cant become laws until a decision is made and the city goes along with it.
MacKinnon has said he believes the petitions will be accepted. He and others have said
they believe the voters will approve the Ordinances. But, we won't know until they stop fighting.
Jeff Harris may have started this but MacKinnon and the City Council are keeping it going.

How's your yard? Clean and tidy?

eye mee wrote:

TBE said
.....I shall give you post no more of my time.

TBE meant
.....I shall given unlimited posting time to anyone who gives me the time of day because I just love the inane banter it generates.

Actually, what I really meant was, "there's no point in trying to talk sense into delusional people."

(I mean, seriously! For example, you ever try talking to one of those "9/11 was an inside job" nutcases? It's not much different than the "Elvis is still alive," "the government is hiding ET at Area 51," and "everyone at Bisbee City Hall is corrupt" crowds!)

Jeff Harris et al wrote:

It was the City Council that told MacKinnon to appeal the court's ruling.
The Council could have accepted Hoggatt's ruling and sent the petitions to the
County where they would have been accepted (MacKinnon believes this) and made available
for a ballot. There was no need for an expensive Jeff Harris election. The referendum and the charter
amendments could have been on the same ballot. In fact if the referendum had been on the ballot
there might have been a better turnout instead of the RECORD LOW VOTER TURNOUT.
When the city appealed Hoggatt's ruling they put the thing in Limbo.
Right-o. The laws cant become laws until a decision is made and the city goes along with it.
MacKinnon has said he believes the petitions will be accepted. He and others have said
they believe the voters will approve the Ordinances. But, we won't know until they stop fighting.
Jeff Harris may have started this but MacKinnon and the City Council are keeping it going.

How's your yard? Clean and tidy?

First, you say this is a vendetta by Mckinnon...then admit that the council had to vote to approve an appeal.
Makes it a bit hard for it to be a vendetta by one person if a group of people decided to do something.

The Ordinances may ultimately be put to a vote by the public, but only the decision of the voters will determine who the the real thorn in the side, delayer of law, and general pain in the ass has been. Given the public response to YOUR recommendation against the charter changes, I would suspect that low voter turn out might be attributed to the lack of influence you have with the voters.

My yard compared to yours is a garden spot.

It would appear that the Toxic Tongue is fit to be tied. The old manic mouth doesn't do well when he can't take a bite out of the replies.

A Beautiful Mind wrote:

Jeff Harris is one cute piece of toilet paper, I wish he was stuck under MY shoe....

Maybe he needs to use that toilet paper so we can stop calling him skidmark?

Is anyone else feeling unsettled after the fire. I am so jumpy I feel like I am expecting something to happen. Is this normal???

Yeah Jean, I think everyone is feeling a bit out of their element, it was a close call.

It has been a few months. Does anyone know what happened to the guy who set the fire?

Didn't they fine the guy?